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Modified matrix table, XMPP article and wayland
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@ -4,14 +4,14 @@ Hey that's first problem! nobody knows how to find your service!
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Go to your search engine and look up the following:
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Go to your search engine and look up the following:
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"Matrix"
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* "Matrix"
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"Element matrix"
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* "Element matrix"
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"Matrix vector element"
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* "Matrix vector element"
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"Element"
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* "Element"
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See? no related results of what we're talking about..
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See? no related results of what we're talking about..
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## Servers uses HTTP for it
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# Servers uses HTTP for it
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What the hell? Why do a completly separate server use HTTP?
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What the hell? Why do a completly separate server use HTTP?
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@ -19,7 +19,7 @@ I mean, XMPP uses HTTP only for file upload and that's it (Also, the
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HTTP upload file server is started by the XMPP server, not like
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HTTP upload file server is started by the XMPP server, not like
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matrix, which depends on, let's say, nginx)
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matrix, which depends on, let's say, nginx)
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## Centralization
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# Centralization
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Yeah, Matrix is a decentralized protocol in theory, but in practice,
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Yeah, Matrix is a decentralized protocol in theory, but in practice,
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this is different:
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this is different:
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* Everyone has their account in matrix.org
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* Everyone has their account in matrix.org
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* Everyone uses element as their client, because all the others suck
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* Everyone uses element as their client, because all the others suck
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## Client is written in Electron!
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# Client is written in Electron!
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What else do I have to say?
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What else do I have to say?
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## Comparision to XMPP
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# Comparision to XMPP
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Here's a literally stolen from 404.city table to compare XMPP to
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Matrix
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| Open protocol? | Yes | Yes but no |
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| Commercialn project? | No | New Vector develops Element |
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| Encryption | OMEMO, OTR, PGP | OLM |
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| Monopoly Network? | Many servers and clients | Most users use Element+Matrix.org |
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| blank | XMPP | Matrix |
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# BTW, how the fuck do I setup a fucking Matrix server?
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| Open protocol? | Yes | No |
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You literally can't i was trying to setup a Matrix server but i
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| Commercialn project? | No | New Vector develops Element |
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fucking literally couldn't, why do I have to setup nginx? I mean, yes,
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| Government censorship? | OMEMO is banned in France | French government sponsors Matrix |
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XMPP does also depend on Nginx but is highly optional. (just for HTTP
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| Encryption | OMEMO, OTR, PGP | OLM |
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file upload and nothing else) but Matrix FULLY depends in HTTP
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| Monopoly Network? | Many servers and clients | Most users use Element+Matrix.org |
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apparently.
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| Good sponsorship? | No | Yes |
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>replacing X.
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>replacing X.
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-- Anon
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-- Anon
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>wayland is like the cheese i bought 1 month ago
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>1 month ago it was new sure
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>but then it just got rotten because it was never put in the fridge
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>except with wayland it should be the opposite of the fridge, it should get developed faster
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>since it's this incomplete this many years passed
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-- Diego
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even think on creating an account here. And would give info to feds
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even think on creating an account here. And would give info to feds
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**SHIT TIER**
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**SHIT TIER**
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Also, the website is **cuckflared**
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Also, the website is cuckflared
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on top of that, <xmpp://nuegia.net> admin sent a text to me:
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>404.city has more problems than you specified. For one, choosing an
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>account on 404.city is actively harmful to the federation as you are
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>unable to send messages or contact 404.city users unless they add you
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>to your roster first. Even worse 404.city users are not notified when
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>someone trying to contact them has been blocked. The message is just
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>dropped from their perspective.
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>the operator of 404.city is notoriously hard to contact, in fact his
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>domain he used for contact, faceless.city no longer exists. Sometimes
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>the operator pops up in the XSF operators chat, other times i have to
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>ask around in general for someone who knows him to ping him for me.
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>the operator of 404.city is not very responsive to issues, and almost
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>always will blame you for making a mistake when you contact them about
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>a service or interoperability issue until you explain it 3 times over
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>with XML traces what's going on and why it's their problem not mine.
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>To top this all off, the service is unreliable, frequently having
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>outages and is laggy. Responses to and from the server even if your an
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>external user connecting to a muc there are SECONDS behind on transaction
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The first paragraph is the most harmful in my opinion, because XMPP is
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good because it's a federation. But 404.city breaks the federation by
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only allowing contacts to message you **Remember that they keep the
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contact list**. So they fucking **literally** know who you talk to. In
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other servers you can make the server admins don't know who you talk
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to by just texting them, instead of adding them to contacts, but
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404.city makes this not possible.
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I don't know what he mean by faceless.city does not exist. It exist
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but it is cuckflared (and a non-existing website is better than a
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cuckflared one)
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But when he mentions that the operator is impossible to contact,
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that's true, partly because [He](/404fail1.png) [don't
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know](/404fail2.png) [English](/404fail3.png)
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Snopyta
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Snopyta
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