diff --git a/osu.Game.Tests/Visual/Gameplay/TestSceneDrawableScrollingRuleset.cs b/osu.Game.Tests/Visual/Gameplay/TestSceneDrawableScrollingRuleset.cs
index 60ace8ea69..dcab964d6d 100644
--- a/osu.Game.Tests/Visual/Gameplay/TestSceneDrawableScrollingRuleset.cs
+++ b/osu.Game.Tests/Visual/Gameplay/TestSceneDrawableScrollingRuleset.cs
@@ -5,6 +5,7 @@ using System;
 using System.Collections.Generic;
 using System.Linq;
 using NUnit.Framework;
+using osu.Framework.Bindables;
 using osu.Framework.Graphics;
 using osu.Framework.Graphics.Containers;
 using osu.Framework.Graphics.Shapes;
@@ -115,6 +116,32 @@ namespace osu.Game.Tests.Visual.Gameplay
             assertPosition(4, 1f);
         }
 
+        [Test]
+        public void TestSliderMultiplierDoesNotAffectRelativeBeatLength()
+        {
+            var beatmap = createBeatmap(new TimingControlPoint { BeatLength = time_range });
+            beatmap.BeatmapInfo.BaseDifficulty.SliderMultiplier = 2;
+
+            createTest(beatmap, d => d.RelativeScaleBeatLengthsOverride = true);
+            AddStep("adjust time range", () => drawableRuleset.TimeRange.Value = 5000);
+
+            for (int i = 0; i < 5; i++)
+                assertPosition(i, i / 5f);
+        }
+
+        [Test]
+        public void TestSliderMultiplierAffectsNonRelativeBeatLength()
+        {
+            var beatmap = createBeatmap(new TimingControlPoint { BeatLength = time_range });
+            beatmap.BeatmapInfo.BaseDifficulty.SliderMultiplier = 2;
+
+            createTest(beatmap);
+            AddStep("adjust time range", () => drawableRuleset.TimeRange.Value = 2000);
+
+            assertPosition(0, 0);
+            assertPosition(1, 1);
+        }
+
         private void assertPosition(int index, float relativeY) => AddAssert($"hitobject {index} at {relativeY}",
             () => Precision.AlmostEquals(drawableRuleset.Playfield.AllHitObjects.ElementAt(index).DrawPosition.Y, drawableRuleset.Playfield.HitObjectContainer.DrawHeight * relativeY));
 
@@ -193,6 +220,8 @@ namespace osu.Game.Tests.Visual.Gameplay
 
             protected override ScrollVisualisationMethod VisualisationMethod => ScrollVisualisationMethod.Overlapping;
 
+            public new Bindable<double> TimeRange => base.TimeRange;
+
             public TestDrawableScrollingRuleset(Ruleset ruleset, IWorkingBeatmap beatmap, IReadOnlyList<Mod> mods)
                 : base(ruleset, beatmap, mods)
             {
diff --git a/osu.Game/Rulesets/Objects/Drawables/DrawableHitObject.cs b/osu.Game/Rulesets/Objects/Drawables/DrawableHitObject.cs
index b94de0df89..8d8f8a419f 100644
--- a/osu.Game/Rulesets/Objects/Drawables/DrawableHitObject.cs
+++ b/osu.Game/Rulesets/Objects/Drawables/DrawableHitObject.cs
@@ -316,8 +316,8 @@ namespace osu.Game.Rulesets.Objects.Drawables
             get => lifetimeStart ?? (HitObject.StartTime - InitialLifetimeOffset);
             set
             {
-                base.LifetimeStart = value;
                 lifetimeStart = value;
+                base.LifetimeStart = value;
             }
         }
 
diff --git a/osu.Game/Rulesets/UI/Scrolling/DrawableScrollingRuleset.cs b/osu.Game/Rulesets/UI/Scrolling/DrawableScrollingRuleset.cs
index 64e491858b..f178c01fd6 100644
--- a/osu.Game/Rulesets/UI/Scrolling/DrawableScrollingRuleset.cs
+++ b/osu.Game/Rulesets/UI/Scrolling/DrawableScrollingRuleset.cs
@@ -131,7 +131,9 @@ namespace osu.Game.Rulesets.UI.Scrolling
                     if (duration > maxDuration)
                     {
                         maxDuration = duration;
-                        baseBeatLength = timingPoints[i].BeatLength;
+                        // The slider multiplier is post-multiplied to determine the final velocity, but for relative scale beat lengths
+                        // the multiplier should not affect the effective timing point (the longest in the beatmap), so it is factored out here
+                        baseBeatLength = timingPoints[i].BeatLength / Beatmap.BeatmapInfo.BaseDifficulty.SliderMultiplier;
                     }
                 }
             }
diff --git a/osu.Game/Rulesets/UI/Scrolling/ScrollingHitObjectContainer.cs b/osu.Game/Rulesets/UI/Scrolling/ScrollingHitObjectContainer.cs
index bd1f496dfa..e00597dd56 100644
--- a/osu.Game/Rulesets/UI/Scrolling/ScrollingHitObjectContainer.cs
+++ b/osu.Game/Rulesets/UI/Scrolling/ScrollingHitObjectContainer.cs
@@ -77,6 +77,9 @@ namespace osu.Game.Rulesets.UI.Scrolling
 
             if (!initialStateCache.IsValid)
             {
+                foreach (var cached in hitObjectInitialStateCache.Values)
+                    cached.Invalidate();
+
                 switch (direction.Value)
                 {
                     case ScrollingDirection.Up: