diff --git a/src/mgr/DaemonState.cc b/src/mgr/DaemonState.cc
index 93fe130190e..f304b18c6fc 100644
--- a/src/mgr/DaemonState.cc
+++ b/src/mgr/DaemonState.cc
@@ -85,7 +85,12 @@ DaemonStatePtr DaemonStateIndex::get(const DaemonKey &key)
 {
   Mutex::Locker l(lock);
 
-  return all.at(key);
+  auto iter = all.find(key);
+  if (iter != all.end()) {
+    return iter->second;
+  } else {
+    return nullptr;
+  }
 }
 
 void DaemonStateIndex::cull(const std::string& svc_name,
diff --git a/src/mgr/PyModules.cc b/src/mgr/PyModules.cc
index 7c221d1ab5e..9a0abb3b363 100644
--- a/src/mgr/PyModules.cc
+++ b/src/mgr/PyModules.cc
@@ -694,9 +694,8 @@ PyObject* PyModules::get_counter_python(
   f.open_array_section(path.c_str());
 
   auto metadata = daemon_state.get(DaemonKey(svc_name, svc_id));
-
-  Mutex::Locker l2(metadata->lock);
   if (metadata) {
+    Mutex::Locker l2(metadata->lock);
     if (metadata->perf_counters.instances.count(path)) {
       auto counter_instance = metadata->perf_counters.instances.at(path);
       const auto &data = counter_instance.get_data();
@@ -741,8 +740,9 @@ PyObject* PyModules::get_perf_schema_python(
   } else {
     auto key = DaemonKey(svc_type, svc_id);
     // so that the below can be a loop in all cases
-    if (daemon_state.exists(key)) {
-      states[key] = daemon_state.get(key);
+    auto got = daemon_state.get(key);
+    if (got != nullptr) {
+      states[key] = got;
     }
   }