diff --git a/doc/cephadm/operations.rst b/doc/cephadm/operations.rst
index ed8b8696fc5..e5f59ccf929 100644
--- a/doc/cephadm/operations.rst
+++ b/doc/cephadm/operations.rst
@@ -2,6 +2,8 @@
 Cephadm Operations
 ==================
 
+.. _watching_cephadm_logs:
+
 Watching cephadm log messages
 =============================
 
@@ -15,7 +17,7 @@ up. Run the following command to see the logs in real time:
 
 By default, this command shows info-level events and above.  To see
 debug-level messages as well as info-level events, run the following
-command:
+commands:
 
 .. prompt:: bash #
 
diff --git a/doc/cephadm/troubleshooting.rst b/doc/cephadm/troubleshooting.rst
index 1f1b52468af..1b6764dd762 100644
--- a/doc/cephadm/troubleshooting.rst
+++ b/doc/cephadm/troubleshooting.rst
@@ -109,16 +109,11 @@ This will return something in the following form:
 Checking cephadm logs
 ---------------------
 
-You can monitor the cephadm log in real time with::
+To learn how to monitor the cephadm logs as they are generated, read :ref:`watching_cephadm_logs`.
 
-  ceph -W cephadm
-
-You can see the last few messages with::
-
-  ceph log last cephadm
-
-If you have enabled logging to files, you can see a cephadm log file called
-``ceph.cephadm.log`` on monitor hosts (see :ref:`cephadm-logs`).
+If your Ceph cluster has been configured to log events to files, there will exist a
+cephadm log file called ``ceph.cephadm.log`` on all monitor hosts (see
+:ref:`cephadm-logs` for a more complete explanation of this).
 
 Gathering log files
 -------------------